In our latest podcast episode, we dive into a discussion about the metrics used to measure the success of ocean clean-up efforts. Often, cleanup efforts are evaluated based on the weight of debris they retrieve from the water. However, this approach is flawed and potentially harmful.

Join us as we explore why it’s time to shift our focus away from the “race for kilograms” and towards more meaningful measurements of impact. In this episode, we are joined by two experts who shed light on the importance of reevaluating our conservation metrics: Kelsey Richardson, a marine consultant for the Food and Agriculture Organization with extensive experience in the field, offers valuable insights into the intricacies of marine debris and its impact on marine life. Pascal van Erp,  key figure at Healthy Seas and Ghost Diving, shares his extensive knowledge and decades of expertise in cleaning up ghost nets.